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"The Deep Work of Recruitment" with Suman Cherry (GWTW702)

Why do you do what you do? How do your values influence your value and worth? How can you improve your ability to communicate your needs, wants, and desires? I explore these questions and more in today’s episode of Getting Work To Work. Suman Cherry is the founder and CEO of Cherry Talent Group and describes herself as a “hiring match maker.” In this conversation, she shares wisdom learned from doing the deep work of recruitment for 20 years. She talks about the role values play in determining worth and value, why communication and feedback are essential, how people can improve their visibility with recruiters, and the role mistakes play in building a more impactful, purposeful business. We also discuss what AI will bring to recruitment and what it can never replace: the ability to learn about a person in conversation. Finally, if you wonder how self-growth influences your work, Suman explains what she is learning on her healing journey.

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Are You a Fearless Creator? (GWTW701)

One of the challenges of making a documentary is that so many heartfelt stories are shared but never used in the finished film. A clip or two might appear in the behind-the-scenes footage, but mostly the interviews wither away through time, memory, and the ones and zeroes of the backup drive. One way I’ve thought to remedy my guilt is to release the entire interview in podcast form. But it just didn’t work. I interview differently for a documentary than I do for a podcast. Fortunately, last week I got an idea: What if I share stories from the cutting room floor? I could feature extended sections of interviews, stories, and anecdotes from past episodes of Getting Work To Work: The Series and other short films, not to mention clips from abandoned projects. The first entry comes from my short film about cartoonalist Jack Kent. He shares what it means to be a fearless creator through his main projects, Sketchy People and Gulls, and the best advice he ever received for creating art.

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"Beyond the Box of What You Do" with Jesse Schpakowski (GWTW700)

When you look at your skills and experience, do you ever think about how to use them to do something entirely outside the box? To transcend expectations, think bigger, and bring dreams to life? Jesse Schpakowski is a photographer, videographer, and life-long learner exploring these questions. In this conversation, Jesse shares his learning journey from being a kid with a video camera filming his friends to an adult photographing everything from real estate and tourism to nature, bears, and the ferocious pug. He talks about how he learned to be alone in nature, to read the body language of animals, to overcome fear through experience, and how it all connects to entrepreneurship. He also gives insight into what is possible as he collaborates with his partner in her business.

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Visual Cacophony (GWTW699)

The creative and curious world of work constantly inspires me. The people, the processes, and the products are all infinitely interesting. But if I had to choose what really piques my curiosity: the workspaces people make so they can do their best work. Whether it’s a coffee shop, a spare room where we live, or a giant warehouse, every one of us has a place that we have created to do our work. What does your workspace say about you? Does it inspire you to create or shut you down while you search for what you need? Are you messy or minimal? There is no wrong answer, which is what is so satisfying when visiting other people’s studios, offices, maker spaces, or shops. When you cross the threshold into a new place, you witness a uniqueness that can’t be taught or bought. How much does the environment influence the outcome of what we create? It’s hard to say, but it’s more than we realize and something we shouldn’t take lightly.

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"How I Started View Thunder" with Kyle Shold (GWTW698)

Have you ever had a project you wanted to bring to life but struggled to make it happen? Today’s guest shares his struggles from taking a dream project and making it a reality. In this conversation, Kyle Shold unpacks how he overcame multiple barriers—hating the sound of his voice, showing up confident on camera, learning the tools and art of editing—to start his new Youtube channel, View Thunder. He produces curated movie reviews that celebrate the art, design, and cinematic storytelling present in movies he absolutely loves. He shares how burnout in his illustration work led him to find a new outlet for his creativity, working through mistakes and learning curves, and most importantly, knowing when it was time to publish.

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Creative Steps & Reps (GWTW697)

A common question people ask me when they hear I’ve been podcasting for seven years and almost 700 episodes: “How do you still have anything to say?” That is an excellent question that I wrestled with early on in the show’s life. And if I’m honest, one I’ve been wrestling with in the past few months. The reason is simple: I’m doing the reps but not putting in the steps. Much like our physical bodies, our creativity flourishes when we do simple things daily. But when you add light strength training as well? Creativity soars! Not only do we have something to say, but we have the power and skill to turn a whisper into a roar. Whether you are on day one of your creative life, in the middle of your career, or nearing retirement, how will you incorporate creative steps and reps into your daily life?

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"Let's Make Delightful Mistakes!" with Sean Schumacher (GWTW696)

I have an important question: How are you making room for laughter in your creative process? Yes, work is serious, but it’s also fun, silly, and straight-up goofy nonsense, at least according to today’s guest. Sean Schumacher is an Assistant Professor of Design at Portland State University, a podcaster, and an all-around nice person who is building community and making design more accessible. In this conversation, we talk about their love for comedy, the journey from artist to designer to design educator, why we shouldn’t fear mistakes, and how to know a project is done and ready to ship. On top of all that, we make room for deep thoughts and belly laughs. Whether you are a design student, creative professional, hardened cynic, or design communicator, Sean’s approach to life and work will hopefully help you open up to delight and wonder.

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"Mr Eligible" with gough (GWTW695)

Fresh from his game-changing journey of epic proportions as Mr Eligible searching for his soul mate, global sensation gough of BeernutsProductions.com is back on Getting Work To Work to talk all about his latest film, Mr Eligible. In this conversation, he naturally shares all the behind the scenes stories from the set, not to mention what made this film his most ambitious production yet. He shares about the challenges in casting a diverse group of women, what it takes to film a 41-minute film in one day, how many hours of reality TV he watched in preparation for this production, and of course, what makes Al Gibson special. Most importantly, he answers the most shocking question ever asked in the history of the world, “Who would lie on reality TV?” The answer will shock you.

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"Support the Monster Makers!" with Kyle Van Cleave (GWTW694)

What are the curiosities and interests you are hiding from the world? What would happen if you brought them to life in your work? For today’s guest, his love for monsters, comic books, pop culture, and pro wrestling found its way into his work after a chance encounter with a Frankenstein Pop! Funko. Now, Boris is everywhere, and it’s awesome. Kyle Van Cleave of Deadbolt Design is a designer and illustrator who brings an attitude of fun and uniqueness to everything he does. In this conversation, Kyle and I bond over Guillermo del Toro and monster movies. He also shares his thoughts on why the Frankenstein story is the perfect analogy for understanding the relationship to our creative work, his love for storytelling, the challenges of rebranding his studio, and what it’s like running a business with his wife, Ashley. Most importantly, we talk about what it means to support your local monster makers.

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Bangers, Ballads & Epics (GWTW693)

I’ve learned a thing or two producing this show and others over the years. But one issue that trips us up at one point or another: the pressure to consistently make the best episode possible. Yes, it’s a form of perfectionism, but it’s also the fear that if an episode has flaws, people won’t listen, and eventually, they’ll leave. Some episodes flow freely from idea to finished product, while others are a struggle. There’s a lot of advice on what to do in these moments: Amateurs wait for inspiration, professionals get to work. Thanks, Mr. Close. But I have a saying that I love to say when a client is struggling: “Not every episode needs to be a banger, sometimes you need a good ole fashioned ballad.” That’s some advice I needed to hear today because I felt the pressure of writing the perfect monologue.

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"Science: The Infinite Candy Store" with Christopher Reddy (GWTW692)

Today’s guest is curious about everything and often asks, “Why is that, that way?” Throughout his career as a scientist and chemist, Christopher Reddy has found a way to channel his curiosity into action as he studies marine pollution. In this conversation, Chris explains how science actually works over long stretches of time and the role uncertainty plays in the work. We talk about how Star Trek and Carl Sagan’s work inspired his scientific career, effective tools for science communication, the importance of building local relationships, and the profound events that change our lives. Throughout the conversation, we discuss Chris’s book, Science Communication in a Crisis: An Insider’s Guide. Not only is it effective at explaining the why and how of science communication, I believe it is an excellent resource for any creative professional who wants to learn better ways to communicate what they do.

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Gatekeeping Creativity? (GWTW691)

I love art and creativity. There’s something magical about taking an idea buried deep in your mind and transforming it into a creative artifact—a movie, song, website, logo, or photo. You get the idea. On top of that, I love technology. Isn’t it amazing how much access we have to mind-blowing tools that make our jobs easier? I’m far from an early adopter of new tech toys, but I love how I can broaden my creative vision a little further into the future every year. But I haven’t always been this way. I used to be a creative gatekeeper. I wanted to define rules that allowed me to label what was and wasn’t creative. More specifically, as a self-declared gatekeeper, I controlled who was and was not creative. While I have allowed my opinions to morph and evolve over the years, I’m seeing more and more people digging in their heels, declaring what is and is not creative: “This is art, but this is crap.” I understand the sentiment, but could there be a better way to advance our creative vision without gatekeeping creativity?

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"Abundant Creativity & Freedom" with Neal Morse (GWTW690)

Neal Morse is a songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and creative cross-pollinator who not only makes epic progressive rock concept albums about the lives of Martin Luther, the Apostle Paul, and Jesus but also brings his creativity to multiple projects including NMB, Transatlantic, Flying Colors, and D’Virgilio, Morse, and Jennings. In this conversation, Neal and I explore song lyrics he’s written over the years centered around creativity, spirituality, business, and the future. He also shares how he creates with a focus on limitless possibilities and abundant creativity, the challenges of writing for different projects, how faith plays a crucial role in his creative process, and his approach to business over the years. Most importantly, we talk about the spiritual power of music and how it can connect with us at a soul level.

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Take Time to Celebrate (GWTW689)

It’s a big week here at Getting Work To Work. The 7th anniversary of the podcast is this Friday featuring an interview with one of my heroes. I’m releasing the second episode of the documentary series about a farmer. And, as always, I’m thinking about what’s next. There’s always something to plan, produce, schedule, and promote. Perhaps that’s why I was lying awake last night, avoiding the next wave of production, by obsessing over things already finished. I was replaying moments from the interview earlier in the day. Hoping people will like the video. Wondering what this monologue will be about. My mind was racing. Sound familiar to you? I don’t think I’m alone because a thought occurred to me this morning, echoing my conversation with Mike Brennan: Why am I not taking time to celebrate? Why is celebrating anything so hard, especially when you know that the clock never stops?

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"Go Create Something" with Mike Brennan (GWTW688)

What are you searching for with your creativity? Perhaps you want to find a way to make a living. Or maybe you want to engage in the most profound pursuits of humanity. Today on Getting Work To Work, Mike Brennan and I dive into the deep end of the pool and examine creativity from the perspectives of meaning, happiness, and play. Mike is an illustrator, public speaker, and podcaster passionate about helping creatives build daily creative habits. In this conversation, we discuss what holds us back from doing our work, the business side of creativity, and how to work through the moments we are stuck.

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Tapping Into History (GWTW687)

A day doesn’t go by where I’m not considering the future of work. How will ideation and creation work? Will it be writing prompts, letting a computer spit out a rough draft, and then editing the results? What about distribution and economics? How will people find our work, and what will they be willing to pay for it? These are all great questions to think about and consider in the fast-paced world of the 21st century. But an unexamined question entered my mind: What role does history play in our work moving forward? Will we allow it to shape our experience or shun it to our detriment?

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Continuum of Creation (GWTW686)

When you think about your creative expression, do you dream of ideas or the end product? I’ve always marveled at film directors who claim to see the finished product in their minds or even songwriters who hear the song playing in their imagination. For many, that is what successful creativity looks like, tapping into something already there and bringing it into existence. For others, like me, I might get tiny glimpses of an idea, but I generally have to start smashing ideas together to find out what they’ll be. I’ve had the opportunity to be on a couple of podcasts recently, talking about my creative origin stories. And as I reflected on those experiences, I realized that I approach creativity the way I do today because of how I taught myself to play the guitar.

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Protection From Other People's Words (GWTW685)

When thinking about protecting yourself from other people’s words, the first thing that might enter your mind is criticism or feedback. Criticism is being externally thrust upon you by critics—either professional or merely haters—and feedback is being requested from others and received by you. At least, that’s how I differentiate between the two. It can be challenging to open yourself up to criticism and feedback, it is a necessary skill, but that’s not what I mean by protection from the words of others. I mean those moments when people treat you as a commodity, a demographic, or a willing audience member to spread their ideas. In these moments, words can do the most damage when an element of control is in play, so I will share a few ways to protect yourself and your creative spirit.

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Why Work? (GWTW684)

This past Saturday, I attended a podcast conference in Portland, Oregon. It was a chance to step away from the computer and be around people, talking about podcasts. It was exciting and exhausting, with a ton of takeaways. Inevitably, every conversation led to the same question: “What’s your podcast about?” A simple question with many answers, but I still struggled to answer succinctly. I wanted a one-sentence explainer, but there are so many stories explaining what Getting Work To Work is all about. I shared the origin story with one person and another, the show’s evolution. At the same time, another conversation centered around a single word to describe the episodes where I don’t have guests. After the conference, I kept thinking about these conversations and thought, “Why work?” So, that’s what I’m going to talk about today.

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"The Future of Content" with Matt Gerchow (GWTW683)

Imagine it’s 2019, and your mentor tells you that artificial intelligence will disrupt your business and you need to diversify. What do you do? Today’s guest on Getting Work To Work answered that question by pivoting from being a content provider to building a marketplace for agencies to get the services they need. Matt Gerchow is a serial entrepreneur, having built multiple businesses, including SteadyContent and the most recent, AgencyHub. In this conversation, Matt shares his thoughts about the future of content and society in general. We begin with his curiosities about optimal routines and travel, his entrepreneurial journey, and finish with what brings him hope.

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More Important Than Tech (GWTW682)

My mind is wrestling with how to stay creative and productive as I grow older. Naturally, I think about technology and ensuring I use the latest and greatest cameras and equipment. But as I look at my actual process versus what is idealistic and even fantastical, I realize I’m a few years behind. That’s because there are more important values and ideals in my life and, ultimately, my business. Before you indict me as an anti-technological heretic, I will make my case for what could possibly be more important than the latest and great technology.

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"Surfing on Life & Love" with Peleg Top (GWTW681)

What force drives your creative spirit? Is it fear or love? Can you imagine how different your life and creativity would become if you loved yourself? Today on Getting Work To Work, I dive deep into these questions with mentor and artist Peleg Top. The conversation begins with focusing on rest and how Peleg is emptying his curiosity tank to prepare for what’s next. From there, we talk about identity, the nurturing and evolving nature of our creative free spirit, the difference between fear- and love-driven energy, and the power of self-acknowledgment. If you’re seeking something deeper and more fulfilling for your life and work, I hope you’ll consider this conversation the first step on what Peleg describes on his site as “your journey of self-unfolding.”

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What Are You Going To Do About AI? (GWTW680)

Have you ever had one of those conversations that reveal how stuck you are and show you what you need to move forward? The question was simple: “What are you going to do about AI?” My response was swift, “I don’t know. I’m just not curious about it.” This is where friends in life are helpful to call you on your stuff, “Aren’t you the curiosity guy? Now’s not the time to bury your head in the sand.” Truth comes in many forms. Sometimes we hear it at the moment, but more often, we find the truth in replaying the memory. At least, that’s how it works for me. The reality is that the answer to this question of AI is a lot more complicated and complex. In today’s episode of Getting Work To Work, I’m diving into the many answers to this simple question.

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"The Three Cords Approach" with Rocco Carriero (GWTW679)

How do you define success for your life and work? What does truth wealth mean to you? Rocco Carriero is today’s guest on Getting Work To Work and he answers these questions based upon his experience as a wealth management advisor and author. Central to our conversation is his book, Three Cords Approach: To Life and Wealth Management for Business Owners, and the core strands: your business, important relationships, and your own well-being. Rocco shares his journey of learning to listen and help people, what he learned from his father who was a tailor, how to build trust, and why pre-scheduling is crucial for making sure the three cords work together. If you are a business owner and struggling with balance, then this episode is for you.

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Strengths in a New Light (GWTW678)

Over the past ten years, I’ve read and heard a lot about the value of knowing your strengths. From understanding how they show up in your life and work to ensuring that you are operating from a position of power if you want to be at your best, it’s better to build upon a foundation of strength, not weakness. But recently, I read a quote from Bono’s book, Surrender: 40 Songs, One Story that got me thinking differently about strengths. Could it be possible that what was once a strength would become a weakness? What if, at some point in our lives, weaknesses become strengths? That is the premise that I’ll be exploring in today’s episode of Getting Work To Work.

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"Why You Should Be Yourself" with Kris Bryant (GWTW677)

What keeps you from showing up on social media? The amount of work it takes? The fear of people not liking you? Kris Bryant is a social media and brand strategist who shares her passion for being yourself and connecting with your audience. In this conversation, Kris shares her entrepreneurial journey and how she learned to show up for herself online. We also talk about marketing lessons and tools, tailoring your message for a specific audience while being yourself, the value of audience research, and how people go from followers to buyers. Kris also gives a few tips on reaping the positive rewards of social media while keeping your distance, especially useful for people like myself who struggle with the negative aspects of social media.

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What's a Curiosity Tank? (GWTW676)

My favorite types of questions are what I call launching questions. They are not only open-ended, as the best questions tend to be, but also so ripe with potential, meaning, and direction that I could generate an entire hour of conversation from a single question. Before recording an upcoming interview with Peleg Top, a mentor, and an artist, he asked me about one of my favorite launching questions: What’s filling your curiosity tank? He wanted to know more about the foundation of the question and what I was hoping to learn from it. As I examined my intentions, I was able to recognize my assumptions and understand more about what I want to ignite in others. Not to mention, Peleg’s answer in the interview found its way into today’s monologue.

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A Different Story To Tell (GWTW675)

I’ve talked a lot about my journey on the podcast, especially where I find myself today: in the middle. I’m not anywhere near the beginning, nowhere near the end. Some days I can see to the very end. On other days, I can’t see anything at all. In these dark days, creativity provides an escape, a respite from the vicious storyteller in my mind as long as I let creativity do its job. It’s easy to get stuck, make excuses, and lie down to let the day pass to the next. Hoping things will change without action, petitioning the silence within for a change. But the best course of action is to move, even the slightest bit, to gain a new perspective and find a different story to tell.

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Who Taught You To Dream? (GWTW674)

As children, no one teaches us to dream. We see the stars and put on our helmets, for we are already flying amongst the galaxy. We hear the songs and sing along, for the melodies and words are already in our imagination. We see the animals and run alongside them, for we are one. No one needs to tell us why or how; we just do. Then we become self-aware. The dreams will make us outcasts, so we conform. Thus, beginning the journey of our lives from knowing who we are to becoming who we are. Fortunately, there are people along the way to teach us to dream. If we only pay attention.

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Slower Learning (GWTW673)

In the last monologue, I shared how much I need to unplug. This morning, Austin Kleon wrote about a “Slow Learning” project conducted by two European organizations. Curiosity piqued, I downloaded the collaborative book that includes a Bill of Rights, reflections from 19 authors and artists about what slow learning means to them, and experiments for incorporating slow learning into your life. In today’s episode of Getting Work To Work, I’m exploring this idea of slow learning by sharing a few quotes from the project and how I’m incorporating slower learning in my life and work.

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Time to Unplug (GWTW672)

“Have you been spending too much time on social media?” I hated that I was asked that question for two reasons. First, the answer was yes, so I didn’t want to admit it. And second, I wasn’t ready to make different decisions on the other side of that question. But the question was actually more profound and complex than just social media. It was everything: news, social media, email. It seemed that no matter what I did, I was triggering my cynicism and hopelessness. The robots were coming for my creativity. I was both good enough and not good enough. Pity, despair, it was all there. And I hated every minute of it. It’s time for me to unplug, and in this episode of Getting Work To Work, I’m sharing five ways to escape from the “always on” culture.

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The Work of Your Future (GWTW671)

What is the first thing that comes to mind when you think about retirement? For me, it’s whether I can retire or not. I’m not sure why I’ve been thinking about it more, but the proverbial clock sure is ticking loudly. But after a call last week with Tom Morin, I’m starting to think about retirement differently. Why? Because I can and I must. There’s more to it than money, and if I start planning now, I’ll be ready for the shift of priorities that will be sure to come in my 50s, 60s, and 70s. Wherever you are in your creative journey, I hope this episode inspires you to blaze a new trail for the future of your life and work.

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