When you are curious, how do you chase new ideas? In today’s conversation, Pat Cheung shares how he uses the concept of side quests to bring cohesiveness to his pursuits as a tinkerer, designer, startup founder, author, and podcaster. It’s important to note that Pat really loves podcasts. Not only is his own podcast about podcasts—Podcast Growth Hacks—but his company, PodInbox, serves the needs of podcasters. In our conversation, we dive into many topics in and around the world of podcasts, including why he started listening to them, what led him to create his own, the psychology of fans supporting creative projects, and PodConf, the upcoming podcasting conference in Portland, OR.